Nov 23, 2009

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JoshCast: Interview with Tim Sandefur about McDonald v. Chicago, the 2nd Amendment, and Privileges or Immunities


Check out the JoshCast with Tim Sandefur of the Pacific Legal Foundation. Tim took some time to chat with me about McDonald v. Chicago, the Second Amendment, and the Privileges or Immunities Clause. Tim also discusses the Amicus brief Pacific Legal and Cato filed, which I discussed earlier.

 

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  • Dan Goodman

    To all,

    I wish to state that the Supreme court, in the Slaughterhouse Cases, held that because of the Fourteenth Amendment there were now two separate and distinct citizens under the Constitution of the United States; a citizen of the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment and a citizen of the several States, under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 [FOOTNOTE]:

        “We think this distinction and its explicit recognition in this Amendment (the 14th Amendment) of great weight in this argument, because the next paragraph of this same section (first section, second clause), which is the one mainly relied on by the plaintiffs in error, speaks only of privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, and does not speak of those of citizens of the several states. The argument, however, in favor of the plaintiffs, rests wholly on the assumption that the citizenship is the same and the privileges and immunities guaranteed by the clause are the same.” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 74.

    And:

        “In the Constitution of the United States, which superseded the Articles of Confederation, the corresponding provision is found in section two of the fourth article, in the following words: ‘The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens OF the several States.’ ” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 75.

    The last was later reaffirmed in Cole v. Cunningham:

        “The intention of section 2, Article IV (of the Constitution), was to confer on the citizens of the several States a general citizenship.” Cole v. Cunningham: 133 U.S. 107, 113-114 (1890).

    The privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states are those described by Corfield, cited in the Slaughterhouse Cases. This is reaffirmed in Hodges v. United States:

        “In the Slaughter House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 76, in defining the privileges and immunities of citizens of the several States, this is quoted from the opinion of Mr. Justice Washington in Corfield v. Coryell, 4 Wash. Cir. Ct. 371, 380.” Hodges v. United States: 203 U.S. 1, at 15 (1906).

    So there are now two citizens under the Constitution of the United States. One needs to find out information on both. For a citizen of the United States that is easy. Just about anywhere. For a citizen of the several States one will have to begin here:

    http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm

    ____________

    FOOTNOTE

    The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

    http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15882

    Also,

    A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

    http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16868

    ____

  • Dan Goodman

    To all,

    I am writing to inform you that the links I provided in Comment 1 (Dan Goodman December 19, 2009 6:09am) no longer work. The new locations for them are:

    ____________

    FOOTNOTE

    The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

    http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=327

    Also,

    A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

    http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=331

    ____________

    There is also the following which I think would be appropriate.

    Comment on Petitioner’s Brief: McDonald v. City of Chicago

    http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=91&Itemid=126

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/136777

    ____________

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